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		<title>Comment on Why can&#8217;t Westerners sing Indian classical music? by Mirza Tarique Beg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirza Tarique Beg</dc:creator>
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		<description>I&#039;m from North India. Due to British expansion, etc. Western culture has influenced Indian culture much more than vice-versa. For example, I was born and grew up in India and got trained in everything Western. Our music teacher (in the 60s) was British and I learned a little piano, singing, etc. 

As a kid, I used to sing old Western popular songs and immitate the vibrato. However, I was also drawn to the Old Indian movie songs (not today&#039;s flashy Bollywood songs that are poor immitations of Western music).  Those old songs were all Classical North Indian (mostly) based on Ragas with a lot of Meend (Glissando to the extreme) and Gammakas (oscillating between notes at high speed). So, I also had a good dose of gliding notes and gammakas as a kid. However, I still used a little Western vibrato to spice things up (as did some of those old Indian movie songs themsleves). 

Later when I started learning North Indian Classical, I found that the vibrato I used in Western songs to add colour was really a crutch for being slightly off tune. When I heard the pure unadulterated, dead accurate, non-vibtrato steady note of SAAA .. sung prolonged with the Taanpura, I got hooked on Indian Classical. Furthermore, when I heard the perfect fifth or fourth, the perfect GAA (third) and the other non-equal-tempered, pure just intonation notes that exist in nature, I got hooked even more.  

It took a while to kill the vibrato and sing the pure note.  With the pure note, you cannot disguise being off tune. Even a cent off the note and it stands out like a sore thumb. By contrast notes in the Western equal tempered scale are off by anywhere from 2 to 18 cents.  At least I had the benefit of listening to those old Indian movie songs and the occassional Classical raags over the radio, but for Westerners not exposed to that at an early age, there&#039;s a tendency I notice for Westerners to fall back on vibrato in particular. Even the top notch Western Opera singers rely heavily on vibrato. Although I really love listening to Western Opera singing, I can never really tell the true accuracy of the notes due to the vibrato around them - the vibrato itself could be oscillating several cents back and forth (whose to tell where the center is).  It&#039;s actually, much more difficult to sing non-vibrato and stay prolonged on a single note and be in perfect tune. I&#039;ve heard traditional female Irish singers sometimes sing prolonged non-vibrato, but then again the notes could have been equal-tempered. But I think they&#039;d have an easier time learning Indian Classical.  

The other thing, is that for those only exposed to Western vocal music, there&#039;s a tendency even in opera to break the notes into discrete steps either using syllables or staccato, whereas (in North Indian Classical vocal) you could start on a single note sing the next 32 or more in a single breadth without breaking it into separate syllables.  Instead, you give each note a gammaka grace note of the higher one (or lower sometimes) in the raag, but you smoothly flow across the whole melodic pattern or phrase without breaking continuity.  Those only exposed to Western music, are probably not used to hearing this in their music.   

Mostly, I found Western music trained listeners like shorter simpler melodies of discrete notes. Whereas those of us heavily into Indian Classical music love complex, unbroken, bursts of melodic patterns that despite their complexity, and the fact that they&#039;re being improvised on the fly, still stay within the ascension / descension rules of the raag and also within the very complex beat cycles.  When the singer or instrumentalist and percussionist both improvising intricately beautiful patterns on the fly land perfectly on the SUM (the beat synchronization point), is when we get the big AHAAA !.. feeling.  

At the other extreme during the ALAAP (introduction phase in North Indian Classical), we tend to sing very slowly, again with non-vibrato long-long-long-long-long-long-long drawn out notes. Western audiences get bored with that. But for the Indian Listener, this can be the most intoxicating part. Like nursing a peg of whiskey, we savour the purity of each note of the raag. The singer hovers for lengthy periods around the starting note SA, slowly introducing us to each note of the raag as a new guest to the party.  Introducing each note is like filling our glass with the next shot of scotch.  In North Indian Classical, there&#039;s no meter during this phase, because it&#039;s whiskey nursing time (but Westerners expect all music to be metered all the time). By the time all notes of a raag are gradually introduced the performer and listener are heavily drunk.  But this is when the party is about to start. During the ensuing phase the prucussionist enters the fray and with the performer and listener, clean out the bar.

A Korean friend trained in Western music asked my why all this complexity when a simple melody and rythm can hit your soul harder ?  My only answer to that was: &quot;The more you drink the more you need to get you drunk&quot;. The simpler melodic patterns and simpler repetitive rythms of Western music are very beautiful, but Indian Classical listener needs more to really get drunk. We need our intricacies of melody and highly syncopated rythm combined and improvised at high speed, we need our glissando extreme (meend) and shaking notes (gammakas) for therein is what hits our souls harder. 

Another guy commented on a North Indian singer.  &quot;Man!, your singer sure can bleet faster than a complete herd of goats in unison&quot;. My only anwser there was &quot;Man! you sure need a couple of SIEKO pitch detection units installed in both your ears&quot; (free advertisement for SIEKO).  Apparently, this individual was so pitch insensitive that he was unable to notice any pitch differences between goats bleeting in the wilderness and Raag Malkauns (a simpler pentatonic raag).  I think the speed of the gammakas notes confuse Western listeners they can&#039;t correctly distinguish the pitch (unfortunately distracting images of sheep and goats invade the mind). Also, perhaps, Western listeners hear the sliding itself as a bunch of out of tune notes.  Actually, it&#039;s no different than Pavorotti performing a glissando, just that it&#039;s done much much more. In other words, it&#039;s not out of tune to slide from one note to the other, provided you don&#039;t stop on a pitch that&#039;s not a note.  During gammakas, you can only shake between two pitches that are notes in the raag being sung. Though sometimes we do intentionally oscillate a note between its true pitch and a slightly flatter pitch (microtone) to create certain intoxicating effects (similar to the blues singers).
 
I&#039;m just a hobbyist, and all these are my highly subject thoughts, but I think Western listeners would need to study and understand some theory of Indian Classical music and approach it without the baggage of pre-conceived Western notions of what music ought to be, in order to benefit from it.  What&#039;s the benefit a Westerner may ask. I&#039;d say &quot;Yoga for the Mind (at the risk of losing your day job)&quot;.  Yes, if you really have the inclination and patience to get into it, you can become so totally intoxicated in the end that nothing else in the world matters.  Even if you lose your job, you&#039;ll be happily unemployed.  But jokes aside, this is really a great stress reliever and induces a beautiful meditative state.  Think of it this way, you will never need liquor or drugs to escape anything. Indian Classical music will do it for you with mental and therefore physical benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from North India. Due to British expansion, etc. Western culture has influenced Indian culture much more than vice-versa. For example, I was born and grew up in India and got trained in everything Western. Our music teacher (in the 60s) was British and I learned a little piano, singing, etc. </p>
<p>As a kid, I used to sing old Western popular songs and immitate the vibrato. However, I was also drawn to the Old Indian movie songs (not today&#8217;s flashy Bollywood songs that are poor immitations of Western music).  Those old songs were all Classical North Indian (mostly) based on Ragas with a lot of Meend (Glissando to the extreme) and Gammakas (oscillating between notes at high speed). So, I also had a good dose of gliding notes and gammakas as a kid. However, I still used a little Western vibrato to spice things up (as did some of those old Indian movie songs themsleves). </p>
<p>Later when I started learning North Indian Classical, I found that the vibrato I used in Western songs to add colour was really a crutch for being slightly off tune. When I heard the pure unadulterated, dead accurate, non-vibtrato steady note of SAAA .. sung prolonged with the Taanpura, I got hooked on Indian Classical. Furthermore, when I heard the perfect fifth or fourth, the perfect GAA (third) and the other non-equal-tempered, pure just intonation notes that exist in nature, I got hooked even more.  </p>
<p>It took a while to kill the vibrato and sing the pure note.  With the pure note, you cannot disguise being off tune. Even a cent off the note and it stands out like a sore thumb. By contrast notes in the Western equal tempered scale are off by anywhere from 2 to 18 cents.  At least I had the benefit of listening to those old Indian movie songs and the occassional Classical raags over the radio, but for Westerners not exposed to that at an early age, there&#8217;s a tendency I notice for Westerners to fall back on vibrato in particular. Even the top notch Western Opera singers rely heavily on vibrato. Although I really love listening to Western Opera singing, I can never really tell the true accuracy of the notes due to the vibrato around them &#8211; the vibrato itself could be oscillating several cents back and forth (whose to tell where the center is).  It&#8217;s actually, much more difficult to sing non-vibrato and stay prolonged on a single note and be in perfect tune. I&#8217;ve heard traditional female Irish singers sometimes sing prolonged non-vibrato, but then again the notes could have been equal-tempered. But I think they&#8217;d have an easier time learning Indian Classical.  </p>
<p>The other thing, is that for those only exposed to Western vocal music, there&#8217;s a tendency even in opera to break the notes into discrete steps either using syllables or staccato, whereas (in North Indian Classical vocal) you could start on a single note sing the next 32 or more in a single breadth without breaking it into separate syllables.  Instead, you give each note a gammaka grace note of the higher one (or lower sometimes) in the raag, but you smoothly flow across the whole melodic pattern or phrase without breaking continuity.  Those only exposed to Western music, are probably not used to hearing this in their music.   </p>
<p>Mostly, I found Western music trained listeners like shorter simpler melodies of discrete notes. Whereas those of us heavily into Indian Classical music love complex, unbroken, bursts of melodic patterns that despite their complexity, and the fact that they&#8217;re being improvised on the fly, still stay within the ascension / descension rules of the raag and also within the very complex beat cycles.  When the singer or instrumentalist and percussionist both improvising intricately beautiful patterns on the fly land perfectly on the SUM (the beat synchronization point), is when we get the big AHAAA !.. feeling.  </p>
<p>At the other extreme during the ALAAP (introduction phase in North Indian Classical), we tend to sing very slowly, again with non-vibrato long-long-long-long-long-long-long drawn out notes. Western audiences get bored with that. But for the Indian Listener, this can be the most intoxicating part. Like nursing a peg of whiskey, we savour the purity of each note of the raag. The singer hovers for lengthy periods around the starting note SA, slowly introducing us to each note of the raag as a new guest to the party.  Introducing each note is like filling our glass with the next shot of scotch.  In North Indian Classical, there&#8217;s no meter during this phase, because it&#8217;s whiskey nursing time (but Westerners expect all music to be metered all the time). By the time all notes of a raag are gradually introduced the performer and listener are heavily drunk.  But this is when the party is about to start. During the ensuing phase the prucussionist enters the fray and with the performer and listener, clean out the bar.</p>
<p>A Korean friend trained in Western music asked my why all this complexity when a simple melody and rythm can hit your soul harder ?  My only answer to that was: &#8220;The more you drink the more you need to get you drunk&#8221;. The simpler melodic patterns and simpler repetitive rythms of Western music are very beautiful, but Indian Classical listener needs more to really get drunk. We need our intricacies of melody and highly syncopated rythm combined and improvised at high speed, we need our glissando extreme (meend) and shaking notes (gammakas) for therein is what hits our souls harder. </p>
<p>Another guy commented on a North Indian singer.  &#8220;Man!, your singer sure can bleet faster than a complete herd of goats in unison&#8221;. My only anwser there was &#8220;Man! you sure need a couple of SIEKO pitch detection units installed in both your ears&#8221; (free advertisement for SIEKO).  Apparently, this individual was so pitch insensitive that he was unable to notice any pitch differences between goats bleeting in the wilderness and Raag Malkauns (a simpler pentatonic raag).  I think the speed of the gammakas notes confuse Western listeners they can&#8217;t correctly distinguish the pitch (unfortunately distracting images of sheep and goats invade the mind). Also, perhaps, Western listeners hear the sliding itself as a bunch of out of tune notes.  Actually, it&#8217;s no different than Pavorotti performing a glissando, just that it&#8217;s done much much more. In other words, it&#8217;s not out of tune to slide from one note to the other, provided you don&#8217;t stop on a pitch that&#8217;s not a note.  During gammakas, you can only shake between two pitches that are notes in the raag being sung. Though sometimes we do intentionally oscillate a note between its true pitch and a slightly flatter pitch (microtone) to create certain intoxicating effects (similar to the blues singers).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a hobbyist, and all these are my highly subject thoughts, but I think Western listeners would need to study and understand some theory of Indian Classical music and approach it without the baggage of pre-conceived Western notions of what music ought to be, in order to benefit from it.  What&#8217;s the benefit a Westerner may ask. I&#8217;d say &#8220;Yoga for the Mind (at the risk of losing your day job)&#8221;.  Yes, if you really have the inclination and patience to get into it, you can become so totally intoxicated in the end that nothing else in the world matters.  Even if you lose your job, you&#8217;ll be happily unemployed.  But jokes aside, this is really a great stress reliever and induces a beautiful meditative state.  Think of it this way, you will never need liquor or drugs to escape anything. Indian Classical music will do it for you with mental and therefore physical benefits.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tievebulliagh &#8211; the magic mountain of the North by Y&#39;dig? Â» Tievebulliagh â€“ the magic mountain of the North</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y&#39;dig? Â» Tievebulliagh â€“ the magic mountain of the North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Malcolm X by Ruthvick</title>
		<link>http://www.ydig.us/malcolm-x/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthvick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, fresh perspective on MX. When I saw &quot;Ali&quot; his character was more intriguing than Mohammed Ali (boxer). Thanks for sharing your insight on Mr X!</description>
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		<title>Comment on real writers by Mark Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seamus speaks of his approach to creativity as trying to come at the truth from traces of it that are inside rather than from evidence gained methodically from outside, following a sixth sense, proceeding on the off chance, testing the ground by throwing a shapeâ€¦. He talks of impulse discovering direction, potential discovering structure and chance becoming design - a movement I depend on, the only process I trust.&quot;

This is so much truth compacted into so little space, it can only be called enlightened poetry. I can follow that truth is something discovered inside. The rest is like an ancient Sanskrit shloka. It&#039;ll take me some minutes of reflection to figure out about impulse, potential and chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seamus speaks of his approach to creativity as trying to come at the truth from traces of it that are inside rather than from evidence gained methodically from outside, following a sixth sense, proceeding on the off chance, testing the ground by throwing a shapeâ€¦. He talks of impulse discovering direction, potential discovering structure and chance becoming design &#8211; a movement I depend on, the only process I trust.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is so much truth compacted into so little space, it can only be called enlightened poetry. I can follow that truth is something discovered inside. The rest is like an ancient Sanskrit shloka. It&#8217;ll take me some minutes of reflection to figure out about impulse, potential and chance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on real writers by Ruthvick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthvick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new marketplace is conversational. Thankfully, with the internet, market segmentation is now an old concept and all businesses which depend heavily on marketing to segments are being punished by the connectivism online. Market segments are dead, as well written in &quot;The Cluetrain Manifesto&quot; -- the old culture of genuine heart-to-heart bartering of services, goods and knowledge is on the way back. Cluetrain manifesto is a free ebook on the web, highly recommended for anyone interested in selling anything - real world or online. Your blog post resonates the obvious need to do away with the falsehood of market segmentation. me likey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new marketplace is conversational. Thankfully, with the internet, market segmentation is now an old concept and all businesses which depend heavily on marketing to segments are being punished by the connectivism online. Market segments are dead, as well written in &#8220;The Cluetrain Manifesto&#8221; &#8212; the old culture of genuine heart-to-heart bartering of services, goods and knowledge is on the way back. Cluetrain manifesto is a free ebook on the web, highly recommended for anyone interested in selling anything &#8211; real world or online. Your blog post resonates the obvious need to do away with the falsehood of market segmentation. me likey!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tony O&#8217;Malley &#8211; genius by Jack Slipper</title>
		<link>http://www.ydig.us/tony-omalley-genius/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Slipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to find yet another aficionado of the great Tony Oâ€™Malley.
Iâ€™ve known Tony for 30 years now and have always loved his work.
There is a better link to Dy singing â€˜Spend Some Timeâ€™ â€“ much improved audio and video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuUlRG4F-A
My Tony-sanctioned You Tube channel is a little bit interesting too:
http://www.youtube.com/user/OMalleyTony
My latest here is Dy, Paddy and Frank doing a bit of backing vocals on Gary Fletcherâ€™s latest. Also on the channel are the ten recent vids I recorded of Tony being interviewed at home and studio about his life and timesâ€¦ quite informative. Also is a complete October 2009 fantastic gig at the 606 Club, featuring songs from â€˜The Road Will Riseâ€™. There is too a tribute by Tony to the late Mark Smith (the 1980â€™s Kokomo bass player) who sadly died early last Novemberâ€¦ also filmed at Faversham at the same time as Andy Newmark that you mention. Frank Collins also gives a series of interviews about his career, as does Adam Phillips, Tonyâ€™s latest guitar player. I shall be updating with other vids of Tony and his friends as time goes by.
Best wishes to you from a fellow Tony Oâ€™Malley appreciator.
Jack (Malvern).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to find yet another aficionado of the great Tony Oâ€™Malley.<br />
Iâ€™ve known Tony for 30 years now and have always loved his work.<br />
There is a better link to Dy singing â€˜Spend Some Timeâ€™ â€“ much improved audio and video:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuUlRG4F-A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuUlRG4F-A</a><br />
My Tony-sanctioned You Tube channel is a little bit interesting too:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/OMalleyTony" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/OMalleyTony</a><br />
My latest here is Dy, Paddy and Frank doing a bit of backing vocals on Gary Fletcherâ€™s latest. Also on the channel are the ten recent vids I recorded of Tony being interviewed at home and studio about his life and timesâ€¦ quite informative. Also is a complete October 2009 fantastic gig at the 606 Club, featuring songs from â€˜The Road Will Riseâ€™. There is too a tribute by Tony to the late Mark Smith (the 1980â€™s Kokomo bass player) who sadly died early last Novemberâ€¦ also filmed at Faversham at the same time as Andy Newmark that you mention. Frank Collins also gives a series of interviews about his career, as does Adam Phillips, Tonyâ€™s latest guitar player. I shall be updating with other vids of Tony and his friends as time goes by.<br />
Best wishes to you from a fellow Tony Oâ€™Malley appreciator.<br />
Jack (Malvern).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Three Goddesses of Irish Mythology and their parallels in other cultures by Hypnotica PUA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hypnotica PUA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Question. When is yoga not yoga? Answer. When your teacher has his hands in the wrong places by Durga Ma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durga Ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for your translation of Patanjali&#039;s Yoga Sutras. This excellent translation is very much appreciated. Sincerely, Durga Ma.
http://DurgaMa.com
http://LearnEasyMeditation.com
http://PhoenixMetaphysicalInstitute.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for your translation of Patanjali&#8217;s Yoga Sutras. This excellent translation is very much appreciated. Sincerely, Durga Ma.<br />
<a href="http://DurgaMa.com" rel="nofollow">http://DurgaMa.com</a><br />
<a href="http://LearnEasyMeditation.com" rel="nofollow">http://LearnEasyMeditation.com</a><br />
<a href="http://PhoenixMetaphysicalInstitute.com" rel="nofollow">http://PhoenixMetaphysicalInstitute.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven steps &#8211; how not to feel old and tired and in the way. by Durga Ma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durga Ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love your seven steps. Isn&#039;t Truth a riot?
http://durgama.com and http://learneasymeditation.com</description>
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<a href="http://durgama.com" rel="nofollow">http://durgama.com</a> and <a href="http://learneasymeditation.com" rel="nofollow">http://learneasymeditation.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Shri Mataji in Bombay 1979 by Praveen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing this wonderful photograph.</description>
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